Dear CandiChatters,
I apologize for sounding ignorant about this question, but in a recent ad I saw for Veronique and Adele, have the dolls always had jointing or is this new?
If the jointing is new, have any of you got these dolls and what do you think of upscale fashion dolls with more articulation? As some of you may recall, I was very excited about the CED dolls that were created by Doug James and Laura Meisner. I completely believed that with their pursuit of designing dolls with more flexibility, there would be something of a revolution in fashion doll manufacturing. Are you seeing a new trend towards jointing in fashion dolls or am I just overly optimistic?
Since I don't collect many dolls anymore, except ones with jointing--the more movement the merrier--I'm interested in whether my perceived belief there is a trend in jointing fashion dolls is here to stay. To my way of thinking, over the past few years, starting with the Simply Genes, then Madra, jointing started to become a feature of dolls. Are the Tonner Models jointed, too? How many other current fashion dolls, aside from Barbie, have multiple jointing? Hope to read some interesting discussion. Regards, Pat Brown
Hi Pat and all, I think the jointing was always intended on these dolls( the Adele and Veronique). They are only jointed at the knees. The shoulders have the same ball joint as the Candis and swing out nicely. I actually prefer the look of the bend knees, but I do realise there are long term problems with them. At least on these dolls they can sit down as long as you like. I did recieve my red head Veronique last week, and she is just wonderful. I am not a packaging freak, but the way Integrity has been boxing these dolls is just wonderful. The box is a slim one with a magnetic closure on the side. The inner box is wrapped in a layer of tissue that folds open to reveal the doll. The dolls is carefull tied in with just a bow ( no knots!) and everywhere the ribbon touches the doll is wrapped in plastic to avoid marks. The only part of the outfit that is affixed is the very bottom of the robe with four small stitches to keep it down. The outfit is stunning. I want a robe like that in MY size. Gorgeous white and grey satin robe. Very full and fully lined. Wonderful corset that really laces up the back and even has tiny gromets for the ribbon to pass through. Everything is immaculately finished. I didn't see a spare thread hanging anywhere. The shoes are actual ribbon ones with a fabric insole and come in their own tiny box. There is also a terrific new stand design. It has a heavy acrylic base with a slim metal rod and acrylic saddle for the doll to rest on. Very classy looking. The overall look of this doll just screams quality at me. And at the price point she is priced at, I am REALLY impressed. Jason has outdone himself with this. I urge all of you who haven't picked one of these up to give them a try. I think you will like them.
Kathy M.
At 07:57 PM 3/29/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Dear CandiChatters,
I apologize for sounding ignorant about this question, but in a recent ad I saw for Veronique and Adele, have the dolls always had jointing or is this new?
If the jointing is new, have any of you got these dolls and what do you think of upscale fashion dolls with more articulation? As some of you may recall, I was very excited about the CED dolls that were created by Doug James and Laura Meisner. I completely believed that with their pursuit of designing dolls with more flexibility, there would be something of a revolution in fashion doll manufacturing. Are you seeing a new trend towards jointing in fashion dolls or am I just overly optimistic?
Since I don't collect many dolls anymore, except ones with jointing--the more movement the merrier--I'm interested in whether my perceived belief there is a trend in jointing fashion dolls is here to stay. To my way of thinking, over the past few years, starting with the Simply Genes, then Madra, jointing started to become a feature of dolls. Are the Tonner Models jointed, too? How many other current fashion dolls, aside from Barbie, have multiple jointing? Hope to read some interesting discussion. Regards, Pat Brown
Message to Kathy M.
I can't believe you got your Veronique. I am waiting and very anxious to get her. Your description of her sounds wonderful and I know without even seeing her that she screams perfection - Jason is wonderful. I can't believe the shoes are actually tied!
After reading your message I am even more excited - I can't wait to get her!! Have fun.
Karla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mroczko" mroczko@verinet.com To: candichat@dolls.de Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Veronique & Adele/doll jointing
Hi Pat and all, I think the jointing was always intended on these dolls( the Adele and Veronique). They are only jointed at the knees. The shoulders have the same ball joint as the Candis and swing out nicely. I actually prefer the look of the bend knees, but I do realise there are long term problems with them. At least on these dolls they can sit down as long as you like. I did recieve my red head Veronique last week, and she is just wonderful. I am not a packaging freak, but the way Integrity has been boxing these dolls is just wonderful. The box is a slim one with a magnetic closure on the side. The inner box is wrapped in a layer of tissue that folds open to reveal the doll. The dolls is carefull tied in with just a bow ( no knots!) and everywhere the ribbon touches the doll
is
wrapped in plastic to avoid marks. The only part of the outfit that is affixed is the very bottom of the robe with four small stitches to keep it down. The outfit is stunning. I want a robe like that in MY size. Gorgeous white and grey satin robe. Very full and fully lined. Wonderful corset that really laces up the back and even has tiny gromets for the ribbon to pass through. Everything is immaculately finished. I didn't see a spare thread hanging anywhere. The shoes are actual ribbon ones with a fabric insole and come in their own tiny box. There is also a terrific new stand design. It has a heavy acrylic base with a slim metal rod and acrylic saddle for the doll to rest on. Very classy looking. The overall look of this doll just screams quality at me. And at the price point she is priced at, I am REALLY impressed. Jason has outdone himself with this. I urge all of you who haven't picked one of these up to give them a try. I think you will like them.
Kathy M.
At 07:57 PM 3/29/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Dear CandiChatters,
I apologize for sounding ignorant about this question, but in a recent ad
I
saw for Veronique and Adele, have the dolls always had jointing or is
this
new?
If the jointing is new, have any of you got these dolls and what do you think of upscale fashion dolls with more articulation? As some of you
may
recall, I was very excited about the CED dolls that were created by Doug James and Laura Meisner. I completely believed that with their pursuit
of
designing dolls with more flexibility, there would be something of a revolution in fashion doll manufacturing. Are you seeing a new trend towards jointing in fashion dolls or am I just overly optimistic?
Since I don't collect many dolls anymore, except ones with jointing--the more movement the merrier--I'm interested in whether my perceived belief there is a trend in jointing fashion dolls is here to stay. To my way of thinking, over the past few years, starting with the Simply Genes, then Madra, jointing started to become a feature of dolls. Are the Tonner
Models
jointed, too? How many other current fashion dolls, aside from Barbie,
have
multiple jointing? Hope to read some interesting discussion. Regards,
Pat
Brown
Hi Pat,
You sound like you know alot about the jointed dolls - at least, more than me. I am not familiar with the Tonner dolls as I only collect Barbie, Candy and friends. I had forgotten about the "jointed" knees on Veronique and Adele! I don't know if I am going to like that look or not. They are only jointed as the knee. The new Aria and friends are jointed at the wrists which should be interesting to see. Sorry I couldn't help you more.
Karla ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat brown" nqsqurtz@mail.staffnet.com To: candichat@dolls.de Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:57 PM Subject: Veronique & Adele/doll jointing
Dear CandiChatters,
I apologize for sounding ignorant about this question, but in a recent ad
I
saw for Veronique and Adele, have the dolls always had jointing or is this new?
If the jointing is new, have any of you got these dolls and what do you think of upscale fashion dolls with more articulation? As some of you may recall, I was very excited about the CED dolls that were created by Doug James and Laura Meisner. I completely believed that with their pursuit of designing dolls with more flexibility, there would be something of a revolution in fashion doll manufacturing. Are you seeing a new trend towards jointing in fashion dolls or am I just overly optimistic?
Since I don't collect many dolls anymore, except ones with jointing--the more movement the merrier--I'm interested in whether my perceived belief there is a trend in jointing fashion dolls is here to stay. To my way of thinking, over the past few years, starting with the Simply Genes, then Madra, jointing started to become a feature of dolls. Are the Tonner
Models
jointed, too? How many other current fashion dolls, aside from Barbie,
have
multiple jointing? Hope to read some interesting discussion. Regards,
Pat
Brown
Who is Aria? pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karla" towers@eticomm.net To: "pat brown" nqsqurtz@mail.staffnet.com; candichat@dolls.de Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 9:29 AM Subject: Re: Veronique & Adele/doll jointing
Hi Pat,
You sound like you know alot about the jointed dolls - at least, more than me. I am not familiar with the Tonner dolls as I only collect Barbie,
Candy
and friends. I had forgotten about the "jointed" knees on Veronique and Adele! I don't know if I am going to like that look or not. They are
only
jointed as the knee. The new Aria and friends are jointed at the wrists which should be interesting to see. Sorry I couldn't help you more.
Karla ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat brown" nqsqurtz@mail.staffnet.com To: candichat@dolls.de Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:57 PM Subject: Veronique & Adele/doll jointing
Dear CandiChatters,
I apologize for sounding ignorant about this question, but in a recent
ad
I
saw for Veronique and Adele, have the dolls always had jointing or is
this
new?
If the jointing is new, have any of you got these dolls and what do you think of upscale fashion dolls with more articulation? As some of you
may
recall, I was very excited about the CED dolls that were created by Doug James and Laura Meisner. I completely believed that with their pursuit
of
designing dolls with more flexibility, there would be something of a revolution in fashion doll manufacturing. Are you seeing a new trend towards jointing in fashion dolls or am I just overly optimistic?
Since I don't collect many dolls anymore, except ones with jointing--the more movement the merrier--I'm interested in whether my perceived belief there is a trend in jointing fashion dolls is here to stay. To my way
of
thinking, over the past few years, starting with the Simply Genes, then Madra, jointing started to become a feature of dolls. Are the Tonner
Models
jointed, too? How many other current fashion dolls, aside from Barbie,
have
multiple jointing? Hope to read some interesting discussion. Regards,
Pat
Brown
I actually saw a nice looking Janay doll at either our Walmart Or K mart...the dolls are at both but one of them has the ones in long dresses... even had one of the guy dolls but it had fuzzy blonde hair which I didn't like. I've like some of the joints in dolls but they only look good IMO, when clothes cover them, When A bathing suit is on a jointed doll, seems all I see are joints. It's a wonderful sight to have a jointed doll all dressed & sitting gracefully instead of with legs straight out or leaning back , half falling out of her chair as is with straight legged dolls. An interesting fact, I understand that one person interested in making artificial joints for humans , took apart the joints in a Barbie & figured out an idea for similar joints for fingers in people....for that contribution alone the world should be behind the continuation of Barbie type dolls instead of making stupid comments about them. Kind of like all the good stuff that has come out of the space program. People have no idea of the contributions to science & medicine alone ...that have come from the space program , not to mention food ideas & packaging, corning ware & even toys. I read an article which went on forever of the things now used , that came from the space program...wish I'd saved it, it was a real eye opener. Pat H. in Al.
Having lived in Huntsville for all of my young life, I remember the test firings well. From our house, I could see the engines being tested. Our house has the cracks to prove it. I made certain to buy the commemorative GI Joe astronaut because I think I learned more from reading the back panel that explained about the Mercury rockets. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Hawkins" jhawkins1320@charter.net To: "Karla" towers@eticomm.net Cc: "pat brown" nqsqurtz@mail.staffnet.com; candichat@dolls.de Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: Re: Veronique & Adele/doll jointing
An interesting fact, I understand that one person interested in making artificial joints for humans , took apart the joints in a Barbie & figured out an idea for similar joints for fingers in people....for that contribution alone the world should be behind the continuation of Barbie type dolls instead of making stupid comments about them. Kind of like all the good stuff that has come out of the space program. People have no idea of the contributions to science & medicine alone ...that have come from the space program , not to mention food ideas & packaging, corning ware & even toys. I read an article which went on forever of the things now used , that came from the space program...wish I'd saved it, it was a real eye opener. Pat H. in Al.
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