I think if you really want var args, function overloading, powerfull preprocessors, etc. program in C or C++. Don't fool with Pascal's identity. And I think 99.9% of what people want with varargs can be quite cleanly implemented with Borland's open array and with variant arrays (boy, I need to use them sometimes, but it's quite bad to let the customer find typechecking bugs...) Groetjes, Berend.